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October 1st, 2006 (12:33 pm)
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I just read quite a few horror stories about the DoD MSD dolls chipping and losing fingers and toes - possibly from weak resin. Dagger's Kirill seemed strong, though, so I don't know about this. Others on the thread have had no problems whatsoever.

So my plans have changed about getting a Hoo to be my MSD Eiri. I have two options -

Order the Hoo and make it a point to tell DoD I am quite aware of how some of their dolls are being shipped with substandard resin so fingers are breaking easily and I expect them to make my doll strong.

Order a Hoo head with faceup and hope the resin matches either Chikara or Nasake's body. The neck size is supposed to be the same according to the stats, and that would definitely cut some costs for me if I could borrow a body from existing family members. Hell, I could purchase another DZ body pretty cheaply if it came down to me wanting the Hoo head to be independent.


Posted by: Talya Firedancer (fyredancer)
Posted at: October 1st, 2006 03:52 pm (UTC)
lucien red cross

Order the Hoo and make it a point to tell DoD I am quite aware of how some of their dolls are being shipped with substandard resin so fingers are breaking easily and I expect them to make my doll strong.

I don't think approaching a purchase in an adversarial manner like that is the best way to go about it? ^_^;; And, as far as I know to be true of any company, if you purchase a standard doll they give you one from the stock available, they don't, like, make the doll from scratch when you order it.

Posted by: onnas_baka_gaki (onnas_baka_gaki)
Posted at: October 1st, 2006 05:31 pm (UTC)

Oh, I wouldn't be nasty about it. But it is a lot like the problems with the OD Tae hands when the dolls were first shipped. At least two people had dolls arrive with broken fingers because they had not been wrapped AT ALL. I asked the company to wrap my guy's hands in bubblewrap because of the incidents and they did. He arrived nicely packed.

I don't know about having one in stock or not - It seems I have always gotten dolls that were made at the time of the order, at least that's what it seemed because two of them were brand-new models from brand-new companies. Shuichi was probably ready to go but he was a special edition so there is a chance more care was taken to 'pour' him.

Posted by: Eidolon Tree (eidolontree)
Posted at: October 1st, 2006 04:56 pm (UTC)

I've heard lots of stuff about Dream of Doll, actually. I've heard that they have a reverse situation with their photography staff. Most websites undersell their dolls by having horrible, horrible white washed photos (presumably to hide their joints and make them seem more human). With DoD, their photos are so good that people are bitching when their dolls arrive, that they don't look as good. I don't know how true that is, as I obviously have never pursued a DoD myself or bought one, but it's a funny thing to read about 'em.

I also heard people mention inconsistant resin, but not that it was all weak. Some other company also has that problem, I've forgotten who....ah, yes. Cerebus Project/Luts, their resin colors fluctuate from batch to batch, so sometimes you can't match a doll within its own line and company.

I'm not sure that telling them that you know about inconsistancy will actually matter. Most companies will nod their head and ship you whatever they have on hand, anyways, unless it's a preorder doll... if you want a Hoo, I would probably be on the hunt more for how they deal with broken fingers and chipped resin, not their actual occurance. It's possible that they've altered the way they package to take care of the fingers (which are delicate, right?), and it's possible that they were isolated incidents. What you don't want, is for the people who are complaining about these broken fingers, to also say that DoD refuses them a replacement or fix, or charges them for a whole new part for their own mistake.

Posted by: onnas_baka_gaki (onnas_baka_gaki)
Posted at: October 1st, 2006 05:45 pm (UTC)
Nasake - name

The sad thing is I have heard two stories about bad Hoos and one about having no trouble at all. I know they are not isolated incidents, sadly.

I will continue to watch the thread and see what comes of it. Hopefully the person will get a response about replacement hands.

Then again, I could always just order replacement hands off the bat, just to be safe. He comes with an extra pair already but a few more gestures would

Posted by: Eidolon Tree (eidolontree)
Posted at: October 1st, 2006 05:58 pm (UTC)

Isn't DoD the company that does "The Bird"? I don't know if Eiri would ever flip anyone off, but Young (AU) Eiri seems to be full of piss and vinegar....

Posted by: onnas_baka_gaki (onnas_baka_gaki)
Posted at: October 1st, 2006 07:36 pm (UTC)
Nasake - name

I looked and didn't see any bird fingers out at DoD. Too bad. I agree with you about AU Eiri being full of piss and vinegar. He and Nasake will get along great, if they don't kill each other first. Luckily they will be the same height!

Posted by: Eidolon Tree (eidolontree)
Posted at: October 1st, 2006 08:35 pm (UTC)

Hn, yeah. I DoAed it, it's Lovelyhouse that has it, dang. Luts has some fun hands, though. I wish that Dollshe had 'gun hands' like Luts does...a 'Bird hand" would be awesome fun with Schuldig.

A little pack of pissed off dolls, rounding up like dogs. I can see an Alpha Male fight a brewing.

Posted by: onnas_baka_gaki (onnas_baka_gaki)
Posted at: October 1st, 2006 11:10 pm (UTC)

That pack would be hilarious! I can hear the grumping and grumbling now! *laughs*

I wouldn't mind one of the Eiris to have a gun hand. Well, I DO have a gun for SD Eiri, by the way.

Posted by: Eidolon Tree (eidolontree)
Posted at: October 2nd, 2006 05:23 am (UTC)

And now I have a gun for my Crawford. :D We have gun happy characters, you and I. Guns and Glasses.

Just a point, before I drop it: If you've read 3 stories, 2 involving broken somethings, and 1 that's perfectly fine.... how can you deduce that it's a majority? That sounds exactly like an isolated incident, to me. After all, how many dolls from Dream of Doll are out there, and of that amount, what percentage is three? Algerbra for the real world.

It'll be fine. I read that Orientdoll sucks all around, poor poses, cheap resin, broken body bits, and even so, most people are just fine -- their biggest hurdle involves accessorizing and dressing the fellow.

Posted by: onnas_baka_gaki (onnas_baka_gaki)
Posted at: October 2nd, 2006 08:15 am (UTC)
I am a math atheist...
Shuichi Sultry

Ack! Math!

Someone else did mention hearing about problems and the impression was from more than one source.

I am going to hang back for a little while, especially since Korea is in a celebration until the 8th of this month. The people complaining got their dolls about a year ago, so maybe it has something to do with October and the weather there, or the dolls were made during a rainy season and didn't cure correctly or whatever. I may order in November.

Right now, I am watching to see if I have a remote chance to win Taji.

Posted by: Eidolon Tree (eidolontree)
Posted at: October 3rd, 2006 01:34 am (UTC)
Re: I am a math atheist...

Yeah, I'm suspicious about ordering at this time of year now. At least Dollmore had the courtesy to announce, "We are still open, but we celebrate this time of year, so we will be slow." Most other sites didn't do that.

Taji? I'm not familiar with that doll...but it looks like you have other posts on him, so I'll reserve commentary until I know better, and comment in the appropriate place.

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